Orange 5 genuine and copy version

orange5-original-clone

what’s the difference when using Orange 5 genuine and copy version? Let’s check the PCB, adapters, capabilities, and reviews here.

Price:

Orange5 original price: US$1,299

Orange 5 clone price: US$179

Outlook:

Left: Original

Right: Clone

Orange5 original vs clone

Package:

OEM Orange 5 (clone) : Blue board and adapters

Original Orange5: Green board and adapters

Clone comes with software CD cause software is not able to download and update

Original does not with CD, you can download it on official website scorpio-lk.com.

Orange5 original comes with more adapters

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original-orange5-3

PCB layouts:

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original-orange5-5

So, what’s the difference when using Orange 5 genuine and copy version? Read the reviews here. Customers talk the truth.

Genuine Orange 5 review:

Orange 5 Original vs Clone:

Do not get confused by Orange pricing. Orange charge separately for the device, the immo software, the airbag software and the radio software, plus a few specials.

All this comes with the clone.

To compare the two, you must add up all the costs from Orange. There is a very large saving if you buy the clone. But you cannot update it and you have no support from Scorpio. It will suit some people for sure. The adapters are poor quality, and for many the hardware does not work. No doubt as time goes by will will see huge threads about how to fix them. The company who makes it does not have a good reputation for quality or support.

I do not regret buying original Orange5 and Tango key programmer. But when I did there were no clones available as an alternative.

As for the Tango clone, it’s PCB and components are nothing like the original, and of a very poor quality. I have not seen inside an Orange5 clone yet.

Clone Orange5 reviews/test report:

1)

I buy Orange5 china clone. Work great. Now i check in hc05b8, hc11e9, end eproms. All read and write very fast.

I have never had any problems with clone, everything works as it should, knock on wood.

I don’t know is there any scripts but softwares for immo,radio and dash coming together with clone.

2)

On Hc908az60 secured it work’s good.

I have 4 secured mcu, and they work ok.

I have tried 68hc11, allot of eproms, and it work’s just perfect.

I don’t have right now anithing else.

Clone but includes – Immo HPX 9V0

confirmed that oem orange 5 comes with immo hpx 9.0 and adapter set

3)

I have clone and work perfect.

2j74y ok

35080 ok

Tms immo opel ok

Hc05 immo old vw ok

4)

I have Orange 5 clone and everything works perfect for now.

I tested with 1J35D,4J74Y,1D69J,0D69J,0F82B,3K91D,TMS370c702

5)

OEM clone seem work good after report from some users. Just need rework solder points on Moto adapter.

I am not aware of a clone Orange 5 yet. But if it says not updatable then it must be a clone. Original ones are sold by Chinese sellers as well. Prices can vary depending on the bundled software.

6)

i have this Orange5 clone and work everytime with him. not work car radio option.i think isn’t bad clone and not expansive.

7)

I have just bought orange 5 programmer and all seems to work well happy

I got fed up with my genuine upa usbs programmer which didn’t seem to want to read anything, it went through the motions and said success reading a load of zeros gavel

Straight out of the box this Orange 5 clone read and write eproms 95640 and 95P08C3 in circuit no problem with no errors, but I had to make sure that my connections to the chip via test clip were all good and then tool work like charm nerd

I think I like it so far.

8)

I have it for a long time and for now everything is working properly.

One of the few clones that works well and works as an original.

So far its reading and writing (with verify) all eeproms i try. Good tool so far.

Some adapters are not supplied and must be purchased separately Adapters should be resolder for sure but it isn’t so bad ,at all

The main point orange 5 clone isn’t so bad as clones can be.

Good investment for sure .

9)

I like PIN checking function (test insertions) very much .It saved my job a lot of time.

In combination with my UPA -S,CarProg,and mini pro TL866 a lot of job can be done successfully .

Great programmer. All that is stated works. If the speed of exchange is not important, you can do a lot. Many good calculators.

You make your choice.

Kess V2 5.017 Review (10-28-2017)

Kess V2 5.017 customer review:

 

 

 

 

Have make pictures from KessV2 eu China version with eu case.

works good and fast r/w over obd.

 

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I have tested on:

 

 

 

Peugeot 3072.0hdi

2002 year

Edc15c2

Read ok. Write ok

 

Ford cmax1.6 cdti

2007

Edc16c34

Read ok. Write ok

 

 

 

BMW 323i

 

2500 24v N52B25

 

2007

 

Siemens msv80

 

Read ok. Write ok

 

 

 

Golf 1.9 tdi2007

Edc16u1

Read ok. Write failed corupt eeprom , restore with KTAG full bdm

 

Citroen jumper2.8hdi

2003

Edc15c7

Read failed open ecu and boot mode with another tool (MPPS v18)

 

 

 

http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2017/11/08/kess-v2-5-017-review/

Where to buy Kess V2 5.017 for good quality and good price?

This is Kess V2 firmware 5.017 clone Quality A+++. Look here:

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Kess v25.017 for sale:

Kess v2 best quality:

Kess v2 5.017 best price: €149.99

Kess 5.017 vs Kess 4.036:

Kess v2 5.017 test report:

Kess 5.017 vs Kess 3.099:

Kess v2 5.017 Windows 10:

Kess v2 5.017 Windows 7 Windows 8:

Kess v2 5.017 review:

Source:

http://rtqobd2.ivoire-blog.com/archive/2017/09/27/where-to-buy-kess-v2-5-017-for-good-quality-and-good-price-472221.html

Kess V5.017 Red PCB ECU Programmer VS green PCB

Kess V5.017 Master EU version with Red PCB is verified a decent tool, 1:1 copy in the market, better than Kess V5.017 Master with green PCB and costs an extra 26USD. Both version allows users to connect internet during operation and won’t be locked any more, and both version are available at http://www.obdexpress.co.uk.

Here we go in details.

Attach Kess V5.017 Master EU version Red PCB

 kess 5.017 red review

kess v5.017 red review

Attach Kess V5.017 online version green PCB

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Kess V5.017 Master EU version Red PCB VS Kess V5.017 green PCB

  1. What are differences?

Kess V5.017 Red PCB: 1:1 copy EU version, better performance than Kess V5.017 green PCB. Costs extra 26 dollars.

  1. What are the same?

Online version: feel easy to use, don’t worry it will be locked.

Unlimited tokens

No reset button,

no USB dongle,

Cover more than 140 protocols than Kess V4.036, read KESS V2 FW 5.017 protocol list vs. KESS V2 4.036.

Kess V5.017 online version with green PCB VS Kess V5.017 4.036:

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Attach Kess V5.017 4.036 PCB

kess v4.036 pcb

Kess V5.017 Red PCB/ Green PCB test report:

edc15/16/17 basics work fine.. Kline an Can ok

lot of denso ok ,tested today on 2016 navarra 2.5L 144hp (7059) all fine..via OBD of course (check ktag for jtag,tricore and others… )

(The EDC17 made by OBD are Audi, bmw and renault without Tp)

Kess accept virtual read i test on AUDI A5 2.0 TDI 143hp 2013 EDC17CP46. it”s ok by obd

ksuite Sw reset token when open, same as all kess 5.017 or new ktag 7.020/26 Fw.

Berlingo 9HX: only readID from engineand works ok

PSA Bosch EDC 16: read ok

Skoda Octavia 1.9 AXR EDC15: read ok

BMW EDC17CP02: OBD write ok

BMW EDC15: OBD read/write ok

Ford Mondeo SID206: read/write ok

K-line and CAN both OK

VW EDC17CP14: read/write with tricore module

2008 Sprinters with Edc16:no issues

KESS V5.017 can support car/truck/tractor/Bike…support both 12V and 24V vehicle..and newer vehicles

KESS V5.017 has no token limited for all compatible vehicles

KESS V5.017 has no grey protocols ..full protocols such as EDC17/k-line/DSG/DQ200 DQ250 DQ500 Gearbox/ST10….

KESS V5.017 read and write ECUs via OBD easily, Do not need to disassemble ECU…more user-friendly than KTAG V7.020

KESS V5.017 do connect internet…Online operation..no need disable the network connectionon purpose before use

That’s all.

Good luck.

2017 Kess V2 5.017 No Wake Up Error

Usually, you have Wake Up Error with old Kess V2, esp. Kess firmware 3.099. But now, new kess v2 programmers hardly ever pop up “Wake Up Error” when reading kess software number.

Kess v2 without Wake Up Error:

Kess v2 5.017 (so far, no)

Kess with Wake Up Error:

Kess v2 4.036 (sometimes)

Kess with Wake Up Error:

Here is an awesome write-up of “Wake Up Error” solutions:

– Here are the files for Kess SD or TF card. Just reformat your card and copy the files onto it.

– Sometimes wake up error doesn’t mean your tool has problem, i use Kess original. when the ECU was tuned and locked. it will show wake up error too …

Please be specific what car, ECU you working with. its difficult to tell whats wrong here …

– Maybe conflict in drivers if you have other tools on your pc, try to remove other drivers,and reinstall only kess drivers, have work for me one time

– Firstly try installing genuine software 2.20 will be fine, once installed then un-install it! Use your software (no point going past 2.08/2.11) if it still gives wake error try removing battery in vehicle for 30 mins and try again, or in ‘tools’ slow the read speed down to minimum! if still no joy just take it out and do it on the bench!

* all above are customer solutions (credits to all contributors); no one but yourself should hold responsibility of what you’ll try.

* if all solutions don’t work for you, please go to http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2015/07/29/kess-v2-v2-13-firmware-v4-036-wake-up-error-fixed/ (credits to professionals working for obdexpress.co.uk)

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Clone KESSV5.017 Review: OBD, K-line, CAN R/W ok

I have the kess 5.017 interface, very fast shipping by DHL after 3 days It’s very easy to install, just click: Next to go on, then it can works well!!!In app it show 5.017 version

I tested for this moment

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Berlingo 9HXonly readID from engineand works ok

PSA Bosch EDC 16: read ok

Skoda Octavia 1.9 AXR EDC15: read ok

BMW EDC17CP02: OBD write ok

BMW EDC15: OBD read/write ok

Ford Mondeo SID206: read/write ok

K-line and CAN both OK

VW EDC17CP14: read/writewith tricore module

200Sprinters with Edc16:no issues

….

Works well

I also confirmed some features, as they stated:

  1. KESS V5.017 can support car/truck/tractor/Bike…support both 12V and 24V vehicle..and newer vehicles
    2.KESS V5.017 has no token limited for all compatible vehicles
    3.KESS V5.017 has no grey protocols ..full protocols such as EDC17/k-line/DSG/DQ200 DQ250 DQ500 Gearbox/ST10….
    4.KESS V5.017 read and write ECUs via OBD easily, Do not need to disassemble ECU…more user-friendly than KTAG V7.020
    5. KESS V5.017 do connect internet…Online operation..no need disable the network connectionon purpose before use

All in all,

It works well and it is a cheap Clone in China.If people want to rework, they can buy some Murata Filters.

You can see pcb,there is no Murata Filters in our kess 5.017 from …..There is no need if all of our kess v2 5.017 works well.

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Attach kess 5.017 pcb rework.. wish it helps. I haven’t tried on any real car or ecu for now, but seem to work.It’s shared on a forum..just copy… good luck if you wanna have a try

Before rework

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Reworking

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Reworke

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Worked with the software

kess-5.017-ksuite-v2.22

Src:

Kess V2 5.017 WIN7 WIN8: No Token & Network Limitation

Kess V2 5.017 in UK:

Kess v2 Firmware version: kess fw 5.017

Kess v2 Software version: kess sw 2.23

NO TOKEN LIMITATION

Note: There are two Kess v2 5.017 china versions, both without token limitation; but one with tokens reset button to reset token yourself and the other without the button. You can use any version of Kess V5.017 for lifetime.

Kess v2 5.017 with a token reset button: reset tokens yourself

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Kess v2 5.017 without a token reset button: no token setup in software

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NETWORK CONNECTIOK: OK, no limits in network connection

Kess V2 5.017 Windows XP: OK

Kess V2 5.017 Windows 7 32bit: OK

Kess V2 5.017 Windows 8: OK

Kess V2 5.017 Windows 10: Unknown

Kess V2 5.017 English: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 German: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 Spanish: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 Italian: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 Portuguese: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 French: Yes

Kess 5.017 car: Yes

Kess 5.017 tractor: Yes

Kess 5.017 bike: Yes

Kess 5.017 functions: Confirmed!

  1. Check the battery voltage in real time
  2. Full Recovery function in case of problems
  3. Auto correct Checksum
  4. Perfect with ECM Titanium
  5. Manage programming counters
  6. Delete ScanTool function DTC
  7. Read/write at different speed: speed optional
  8. Write full filection of the card
  9. Support Boot Loader Mode

Kess v2 4.036 vs Kess v2 5.017:

Product Kess v2 v5.017 Kess v2 v4.036
Image  kess-v5.017-obd2-ecu-programmer  kess-v2-4.036-manager-tuning-kit-master
Price €179.00 €149.95
Hardware ver. 5.017 4.036
Software ver. KSuite 2.23 K-Suite 2.33
System Windows 8 (need luck)Windows 7 32bit (tested)

Windows XP (tested)

Windows XP (tested)
Security With USB dongle, more secure Secure
Stability More stable Stable
Tokens No token limitation for ALL vehicles Token-limited for some models
Vehicles Cars, trucks, tractors, bikes Cars only
Protocols Fully open for all software protocols(works well for EDC17/MED17/k-line/DSG/DQ200 DQ250 DQ500 Gearbox/ST10/Ford J1850 ….  !)

Some protocols not available

This post source from Car OBD2 Tools global one-stop shopping supplier —OBDexress.co.uk Official technical blog :http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2017/07/28/kess-v2-5-017-win7-8-no-token-network-limitation/

Kess V2 firmware 5.017 Windows 7/8/XP: Worked!

Kess V2 5.017 manual: how to setup/install Kess V2 5.017 Ksuite 2.23 on Windows 7or Windows 8 or XP system.

How to install Kess V2 5.017 on Windows 7/8/XP:

Here, take windows xp.

Kess V2 5.017 software installation steps:

(Kess V2 5.017 used with Ksuite 2.23)

First, disconnect all network connection!

Open KSuite 2.23 (E:) and run “ksuite_222_v2” exe.

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To complete the setup, click on “Next”, “Next” then “Install”

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Accept a Microsoft Visual C++ 2005 License Terms

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Installation language: Here: “U.S English”.

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Click “Next” until “Finish” to complete Ksuite 2.22 setup wizard.

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And choose “English”.

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On desktop, open”K-Suite Properties”

Replace all files in C:/Ksuite 2.23 with E:/Ksuite 2.23

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Found New Hardware Wizard: click on “Next” then “Finish”.

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Setup USB Device: “My Computer”, then”Manage”, then”Device Manager”

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Open K-Suite and now it’s Ksuite 2.23 software!

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Click “Info” button and check the firmware version is 5.017.

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So, Kess v2 5.017 now is ready for use!!!

Kess v2 5.017 tested on 2007 Toyota Vitz (P9x): WORKED!

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Kess v2 fw 5.017 success with Yaris 2NZ-FE ECU writing!!

  1. it’s workingwith original database on Win7 Win8 (not only XP)
    2. Fully activated: all protocols available: EDC17 / k-line / DSG / DQ200 DQ250 DQ500 Gearbox / ST10 …., no gray buttons!!!!
  2. 3. can work with the 2016 model;
  3. i compared it with kess 4.03: kess 5.017 adds 140+ vehicle types; can support car/truck/tractor/bikes (version 4.036 supports cars only)

It’s nice when it works.

How to use BDM frame with adapters set

It’s used to update/flash ECUs, writeECM modified and programProbe holder/Dimsport aids.

The frame can work with ECM Chip Tuning Tools such as KESSKTAGFGTECHBDM 100KTM100CMD, DIMSPORT AIDS…

This set includes: aluminum alloy support pair, acrylic sheet (LED lamp and interface),BDM probes 4, wire 4

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How to use the BDM frame aluminium:

Insert the probe to connect the BOOT on the ECU board and CNF1, the legend for the public MED17.5.2 computer board.

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Applicable to open the ECU, to avoid welding jumper. In the acrylic board with LED light bar, help the case of poor light to see the hole of the board.

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Jumper for the plug-in, to reduce the trouble of welding the connection, easy to connect, and can be more than a series.

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LED power situation, the whole board can see clearly. LED power supply with ECU equipment with 12V power supply, connect the probe, you can disconnect the power supply, to the equipment for the

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The new LED light bar interface is fixed on the acrylic plate, for the straight type.

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Add a LED light to facilitate the case of poor light to see the computer board, the picture on the LED lights may be updated at any time, only for more practical.

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The tip of the probe is specially designed and scalable.

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How does the BDM frame work with ECU programmers:

Here, how to work with Ktag 7.020:

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Kess V2 5.017 Ktag 7.020 Review with PCB Rework

Here is the Kess V2 5.017 Ktag 7.020 reviews

I reworked kess and seem to work, sw open and show protocol active but I haven’t tried on a car.

Kess v2 5.017 rework:

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Rework of ktag ok, seem to work.

I haven’t tried on real car or ecu for now, but seem to work.when I tried on ecu I post result.

Ktag 7.020 rework:

ktag-7.020-test ktag-7.020-reworked ktag-7.020-rework ktag-7.020-before-rework

Ktag work very well!

I tested with a lot of edc17 in these day and read and write without problem.

Tested with a edc17c50 bmw 120d f21 with gpt, read and write ok.

I have a fiat edc17c69 virgin (without software inside), this I can’t read.

In these day I must read a Toyota with nec, when I read post results.

Ktag haven’t token, I read more than 30 ecu and work the same.