2018 Kess V2 5.017 vs 2017 Kess V2 5.017

2018-kess-v2-5,017

A lot of improvement on PCB components, compared to Kess made in 2017:

1.the left upper corner and the lower right corner notch size is not the same

2.More thanbuzzer

3.WFs = Infineon, BCR112 NPN Digital Transistor

4.27E = ON Semiconductor NUP2105LT1G

5.6DW = NXP BC817,215 NPN Bipolar Transistor

6.A6c =MMUN2113LT1G / MMUN2113LT3G

7.K5B = BC807-25-7-F PNP Bipolar Transistor

8.Using imported Japanese Murata filter NFE61PT472C1H9L

2017 Kess V2 firmware 5.017:

2017-kess-v2-5,017

2018 KESS 5.017 Specification

Model name:Kess V2 Master

Software Version: V2.23 (Newest)

Fireware Version: V5.017

Update:By link

Car Models: For Multi-cars and trucks,no year limitation

Languages: English/ German/ Spanish/ Italian/ Portuguese/ French

Functions:Ecu Programming Tool

Connection:By OBD2.Read and write ECU via OBD2 port directly, no need disassemble ECU from the car, easy to use .

Support Protocol:OBD2,BOOT…

KESS V2 5.017 Red PCBIntroduction

Red KESS 5.017 is the newest introducted OBDII ECU Programmer for Multi Vehicles. As the new generation KESS V2 Master Kit,the New KESS V5.017 with a newer fashionable look and used the Best PCB Board(Red EU Version) as well as LPC2478 NXP Chip + Newer sd card + 3D Sticker to provide a stable ECU Programming. 2018 Newest Red PCB KESS V5.017 supports online 140+ protocols without tokens limited and provides better quality and performance at decent price and will one of the must have ECU Flasher Tool For ECU tuners.

KESS V2 5.017 With Red PCB Highlight

1.The Best PCB Board(Red EU Version), LPC2478 NXP Chip + Newer sd card + 3D Sticker.

2.Using imported Japanese Murata filter NFE61PT472C1H9L

3. Better performance,function as well as online 140+protocols supported.

4. Online Operation Supported,No tokens limited.

5. Perfect for OBD use,Read and write ECU via OBD2 port directly, no need disassemble ECU from the car, easy to use .

6. No reset button,no USB dongle,no tokens limited and has tested by many users as well as our technology department, 100% workable.

7.Multi-Languages supported.

What’s different between KESS 5.017 Green PCB and Red PCB?

1 Red PCB has better quality,and same outside box as original.

2 Both KESS 5.017 are same software,stable for use.If you want original looks,you can choose red pcb version.

3.Red KESS V5.017 with LPC2478 NXP + Newer SD Card

What is the different between Red KESS V2 5.017 EU and KTAG 7.020?

1.Red KESS FW5.017 is perfect for OBDII using. For Most Vehicles, KESS V5.017 Red PCB can read and write ECU via OBD2 Cable Directly.While KTAG FW7.020 can read and write ECU via TRICORE or BDM Or Other Mode with special cable,KTAG V7.020 is for all the ECU that need to be programmed with Jtag, BDM and Boot protocols

2.Red KESS 5.017 Ksuite 2.23 EU is for mainly for home cars,trucks,while the K-TAG 7.020 Master is for truck/tractor/Heavy Duty/Boat and so on.

3.KESS FW5.017 With Red PCB Europe Version can work For Most for Toyota Denso ECU Protocol,but just K-TAG 7.020 with GPT Cable can work For Toyota Hilux kun26 very well !

4.KTAG V7.020 can support much more Cars/truck/tractor/motorcycle than KESS V5.017 Red !

Now, most tuners tend to buy Red KESS V2 5.017 + K-TAG KTAG 7.020 together to make more online protocols can be programmed or flashed.

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How to reset Ktag and Kess V2 ECU tuning tool

I post how to reset Ktag and Kess v2 ecu tuning tool

1.Download version ksuite 2.08 here

2.Buy new sd card 1gb-2gb and format in fat32 ussing this program

3.For kess use this cfg and 4 file

Copy on sd card 4 file and in ksuite 2.08 open folder update and copy update folder

Connect kess and wait for update all protocol

4. For ktag buy new sd card format in fat32 with program posted and copy 3 file on sd card and update on folder update in ksuite 2.08 connect ktag and wait for update all protocol.

Ksuite 2.08 setup

ksuite-2.08-setup-download

HDD format

hdd-forma+

Kess 4.036-K09021102-full.rar

reset-kess-v2

Ktag

reset-ktag

Use only ksuite 2.08

Enjoy.

 Source:

Kess V5.017 Red PCB ECU Programmer VS green PCB

Kess V5.017 Master EU version with Red PCB is verified a decent tool, 1:1 copy in the market, better than Kess V5.017 Master with green PCB and costs an extra 26USD. Both version allows users to connect internet during operation and won’t be locked any more, and both version are available at http://www.obdexpress.co.uk.

Here we go in details.

Attach Kess V5.017 Master EU version Red PCB

 kess 5.017 red review

kess v5.017 red review

Attach Kess V5.017 online version green PCB

kess v5.017 master green pcb-02kess-v2-online-version green pcb

Kess V5.017 Master EU version Red PCB VS Kess V5.017 green PCB

  1. What are differences?

Kess V5.017 Red PCB: 1:1 copy EU version, better performance than Kess V5.017 green PCB. Costs extra 26 dollars.

  1. What are the same?

Online version: feel easy to use, don’t worry it will be locked.

Unlimited tokens

No reset button,

no USB dongle,

Cover more than 140 protocols than Kess V4.036, read KESS V2 FW 5.017 protocol list vs. KESS V2 4.036.

Kess V5.017 online version with green PCB VS Kess V5.017 4.036:

 kess v5.017 vs kess 4.036-03

Attach Kess V5.017 4.036 PCB

kess v4.036 pcb

Kess V5.017 Red PCB/ Green PCB test report:

edc15/16/17 basics work fine.. Kline an Can ok

lot of denso ok ,tested today on 2016 navarra 2.5L 144hp (7059) all fine..via OBD of course (check ktag for jtag,tricore and others… )

(The EDC17 made by OBD are Audi, bmw and renault without Tp)

Kess accept virtual read i test on AUDI A5 2.0 TDI 143hp 2013 EDC17CP46. it”s ok by obd

ksuite Sw reset token when open, same as all kess 5.017 or new ktag 7.020/26 Fw.

Berlingo 9HX: only readID from engineand works ok

PSA Bosch EDC 16: read ok

Skoda Octavia 1.9 AXR EDC15: read ok

BMW EDC17CP02: OBD write ok

BMW EDC15: OBD read/write ok

Ford Mondeo SID206: read/write ok

K-line and CAN both OK

VW EDC17CP14: read/write with tricore module

2008 Sprinters with Edc16:no issues

KESS V5.017 can support car/truck/tractor/Bike…support both 12V and 24V vehicle..and newer vehicles

KESS V5.017 has no token limited for all compatible vehicles

KESS V5.017 has no grey protocols ..full protocols such as EDC17/k-line/DSG/DQ200 DQ250 DQ500 Gearbox/ST10….

KESS V5.017 read and write ECUs via OBD easily, Do not need to disassemble ECU…more user-friendly than KTAG V7.020

KESS V5.017 do connect internet…Online operation..no need disable the network connectionon purpose before use

That’s all.

Good luck.

Kess V2 5.017 WIN7 WIN8: No Token & Network Limitation

Kess V2 5.017 in UK:

Kess v2 Firmware version: kess fw 5.017

Kess v2 Software version: kess sw 2.23

NO TOKEN LIMITATION

Note: There are two Kess v2 5.017 china versions, both without token limitation; but one with tokens reset button to reset token yourself and the other without the button. You can use any version of Kess V5.017 for lifetime.

Kess v2 5.017 with a token reset button: reset tokens yourself

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Kess v2 5.017 without a token reset button: no token setup in software

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NETWORK CONNECTIOK: OK, no limits in network connection

Kess V2 5.017 Windows XP: OK

Kess V2 5.017 Windows 7 32bit: OK

Kess V2 5.017 Windows 8: OK

Kess V2 5.017 Windows 10: Unknown

Kess V2 5.017 English: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 German: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 Spanish: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 Italian: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 Portuguese: Yes

Kess V2 5.017 French: Yes

Kess 5.017 car: Yes

Kess 5.017 tractor: Yes

Kess 5.017 bike: Yes

Kess 5.017 functions: Confirmed!

  1. Check the battery voltage in real time
  2. Full Recovery function in case of problems
  3. Auto correct Checksum
  4. Perfect with ECM Titanium
  5. Manage programming counters
  6. Delete ScanTool function DTC
  7. Read/write at different speed: speed optional
  8. Write full filection of the card
  9. Support Boot Loader Mode

Kess v2 4.036 vs Kess v2 5.017:

Product Kess v2 v5.017 Kess v2 v4.036
Image  kess-v5.017-obd2-ecu-programmer  kess-v2-4.036-manager-tuning-kit-master
Price €179.00 €149.95
Hardware ver. 5.017 4.036
Software ver. KSuite 2.23 K-Suite 2.33
System Windows 8 (need luck)Windows 7 32bit (tested)

Windows XP (tested)

Windows XP (tested)
Security With USB dongle, more secure Secure
Stability More stable Stable
Tokens No token limitation for ALL vehicles Token-limited for some models
Vehicles Cars, trucks, tractors, bikes Cars only
Protocols Fully open for all software protocols(works well for EDC17/MED17/k-line/DSG/DQ200 DQ250 DQ500 Gearbox/ST10/Ford J1850 ….  !)

Some protocols not available

This post source from Car OBD2 Tools global one-stop shopping supplier —OBDexress.co.uk Official technical blog :http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2017/07/28/kess-v2-5-017-win7-8-no-token-network-limitation/

Kess V2 5.017 Ktag 7.020 Review with PCB Rework

Here is the Kess V2 5.017 Ktag 7.020 reviews

I reworked kess and seem to work, sw open and show protocol active but I haven’t tried on a car.

Kess v2 5.017 rework:

kess-5.017-ksuite-v2.22 kess-v2-5.017-before-rework kess-v2-5.017-rework kess-v2-5.017-reworked

Rework of ktag ok, seem to work.

I haven’t tried on real car or ecu for now, but seem to work.when I tried on ecu I post result.

Ktag 7.020 rework:

ktag-7.020-test ktag-7.020-reworked ktag-7.020-rework ktag-7.020-before-rework

Ktag work very well!

I tested with a lot of edc17 in these day and read and write without problem.

Tested with a edc17c50 bmw 120d f21 with gpt, read and write ok.

I have a fiat edc17c69 virgin (without software inside), this I can’t read.

In these day I must read a Toyota with nec, when I read post results.

Ktag haven’t token, I read more than 30 ecu and work the same.

MPPS V18 vs KESS V2 vs KTAG vs FgTech Galletto v54

How to choose the right ECU tuning tool you need really? MPPS v18, ktag, kess, fgtech4 or 2? Tips from pros here… Hope this helps.

ECU tools/Communication MPPS V18 KESS v2 KTAG FgTech 2 /
Fgtech 4
OBD2  
BOOT  
BDM    
J-TAG    
Tricore      

So, KESS v2 supports obd2, boot

MPPS v18 works for obd2, Multiboot, Tricore for Marelli ECU’s

KTAG can work for bdm, j-tag, boot

FgTech Galleto v54 4 (or Fgtech 2) work no issues with obd2, bdm, j-tag, boot

Communication/

ECU tools

OBD2 BOOT BDM JTAG Tricore
MPPS V18      
KESS v2      
KTAG    
FgTech 2 /

Fgtech 4

 

So, 3 options are available for OBDII connection: mpps v18, kess, fgtech

3 options for BOOT: kess v2, k-tag, fgtech galletto

2 options for BDM: ktag, fgtech

2 options for JATG: ktag, fgtech 4/2

Only 1 way for Tricore: MPPS V18!

That is why you need buy more than one ecu programmers.

When to buy Galletto 4 and kess v2 together?

Galletto 4 work with truck, including Benz truck, read and write ECU via both BDM and OBD; KESS not works with truck, read and write ECU via only OBD, not BDM.

When to buy Kess v2 and Ktag together?

KESS V2 is a ECU programming tool that is perfect for OBD use, while KTag is perfect for Jtag, BDM and all the Boot application (tricore and ST10).

With KESS V2 you programming directly through the OBD port of the vehicle, while with Ktag (Ktag 2.13) you need to take apart the ECU and open it, after you can make the read/write operation.

Many ECU has the advantage that can be read and write from OBD port (so KESS V2 is perfect), but there are lot ECU that need to disassemble from the car and open and this is the case for all the ECU that need to be programmed with Jtag, BDM and Boot protocols, so KTAG is needed.

When to buy Fgtech 4, Kess v2 and Ktag all together?

Because non of China tool will cover all cars good and if you buy clone tools, buy all (galletto+kess+ktag) from them, that you will cover more cars, or better to buy a good original tool if you will do the work as a pro, all depends want you will do.

Reference:

MPPS covers MAIN + TRICORE + MULTIBOOT and a wide range of controllers incl. M3.8, M5.9, ME7xx, MED9, MED17, EDC15/16/17, Delphi, Siemens, Marelli, Delco, Sagem, Trionic and many others…

Kess covers all major brands and protocols including Line, CAN, EDC17 and MED17 and Ford J1850

ktag firmware v6.070 with ksuite v2.13 supports BDM MOTOROLA MPC5xx, and BMW Gasoline F Chassis and Mercedes W222

FGTech Galletto 4 is a famous chip tuning tool for all cars, trucks, motorcycles, Marine, BDM MPCxx, BDM Boot Mode Tricore, checksum

Fgtech 2 comes with all Cars, Trucks, Traktors and bikes. New Boot Mode System Tricore Infineon Tricore Sak TC1766, Sak TC1767 *new Infineon Tricore sak TC1792,TC1796,TC1797,TC1767. READ / WRITE New BMW by OBD2 port.

Tuning/Programming EDC17 ECU chip Toturial

How to tunig/programming EDC17 ecu chip?Here have some different solutions for most details help the beginners.

Here we go…

What is Electronic Diesel Control (EDC)?

EDC (Electronic Diesel Control) is definitely an electronic engine-management technique for diesel engines.

The new EDC17 is usually used incredibly flexibly in any vehicle segment on each of the world??s markets. The Bosch EDC17 determines the injection parameters for eachcylinder, creating specific adaptations if needed. Additionally to controlling the precise timing and quantity of injection, exhaust gas recirculation, and manifold stressregulation, in addition, it presents a big number of choices like the manage of particulate filters or systems for decreasing nitrogen oxides.

What ECU chip tuning tool fits for EDC17 tuning?

Here, you have 5 major alternatives.

1.KESS V2 (€162)- most popular

KESS v2 is usually a strong ECU tuner with reasonably priced value. KESS V2 tuning kit covers all major brands and protocols including Line, CAN, EDC17 and MED17 and Ford J1850. It has some distinguish capabilities that other ECU tuning tool did not have, like Verify in the battery voltage in real-time, Complete Recovery function in case ofissues, Automatic correction of the Checksum, Boot-Loader mode supported, Management of the programming counters, Scan Tool function to remove DTC, Several alternatives of reading/writing speed, Alternative to write full file/section with the map and full integration with ECM Titanium ECU programming software program. The device can not be upgraded and must be installed on Windows XP operating program.

KTAG also ok?

With KESS V2 you programming directly through the OBD port of the vehicle, while with Ktag (Ktag 2.13) you need to take apart the ECU and open it, after you can make the read/write operation.

Many ECU has the advantage that can be read and write from OBD port (so kess is perfect), but there are lot ECU that need to disassemble from the car and open and this is the case for all the ECU that need to be programmed with Jtag, BDM and Boot protocols, so KTAG is needed also.

So, kess is a ECU programming tool that is perfect for OBD use, while KTag is perfect for Jtag, BDM and all the Boot application (tricore and ST10).

Kess v2 buying guide:

There many different versions in the market. But Kess V2 firmware V4.036 is the best quality for ecu tuning via OBD, while Ktag for Jtag, BDM and all the Boot application. So, the best solution should be: Kess v2 + Ktag tuning kit:

http://www.obdexpress.co.uk/wholesale/kess-v2-manager-tuning-kit-master-unlimited-token.html

2.FGTECH Galletto 2 master (€39.99)- fastest & safest

FGTECH Galletto v50 programmer supports BDM-TriCore-OBD (MPC5xx – EDC17 – Infineon TriCore – ST10Fxx – OBD2 (K-CAN) now. The system comes complete with all vehicles, trucks, traktors and bikes with new Boot Mode Program Tricore Infineon Tricore Sak TC1766, Sak TC1767 *new Infineon Tricore sak TC1792,TC1796,TC1797,TC1767. It may also support study and write new BMW by means of OBD two port. The application could be upgrade through e mail. The dongles has been canceled. You are able to use it freely.

3.MPPS V18 (€94)- best China knock off

MPPS V18 ECU chip tuning interface support read and create flash for EDC15 EDC16 and EDC17 checksum. MPPS v18 has produced some improvements of EDC15 and DDE4. It has adds VAG EDC17 CHECKSUM programming function. New cars have been added to MPPS V18. The software program must be installed on Windows XP operating method and can not be upgraded.

4.MPPS 13.02 (€13.50)- lowest cost

New MPPS 13.02V MPPS chip tuning interface enables to study and write memory in the vehicle laptop by means of the diagnostic connector. MPPS V13.02 supports the newest drivers EDC16, EDC17, MED9.x, Siemens PPD1 / x, EDC15, ME7.xi significantly more … It help flashing reading and writing K+CAN , checksum calculaton and Make Model Engine Ecu Make Ecu Form Connection Read Create Checksum. It’s a standalone ECU chip tuning that work devoid of unnecessary boxes and cables by straight plugged into connector. The software program must be installed on Windows XP2 operating system.

5.DS17 Infineon Tricore Boot Reader (€86)- full car listed

DS17 Infineon Tricore Boot Reader help EDC17/MED17/ME17/MEV17/MEVD17/PCF2.1/SD13/SD14/SD16/SID208/SID807 programming. Normally named as bootmode this port may be the Infineon pendent for the Motorola/Freescale BDM port. In contrast for the BDM port, whose pins only have this purpose, the bootmode is carried out over 1 on the CAN busses with theprocessor. For the reason that new assembled ECUs are programmed over this port, Bosch has put it on a 14 pin pad array. It appears like the BDM port but works completelydistinct. The power can also be supplied more than the probe, but is spite to the BDM system the voltage will not be manually switchable but automatically controlled by the DS17.

What are ECU EDC17 types can be supported?

Car ECU
Manufacturer Type Version Manufacturer Type
Audi A3 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17C46
Audi A4 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Audi A5 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP20 HW31
Audi A5 3.0L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP14 HW02
Audi A6 2.7L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP14 EXTERN
Audi Q5 3.0L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP24
Audi Q7 3.0L TDI Bosch EDC17CP04 HW01
Audi Q7 4.2L V8 TDI Bosch EDC17CP24
BMW 118d (E81) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17C06 DDE7.0
BMW 120d (E81) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 120d (E82) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 120d (E88) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 123d (E81) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 123d (E82) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 318d (E90) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17C06 DDE7.0
BMW 318d (E91) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17C06 DDE7.0
BMW 320d (E90) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 320d (E91) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 320d (E92) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 320d (E93) 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW 325d (E93) 2.5L D Bosch EDC17CP09 DDE7.3
BMW 330d (E91) 3.0L D Bosch EDC17CP09 DDE7.3
BMW 535D (F11) 3.0L D Bosch EDC17C41
BMW 535GT (F07) 3.0L D Bosch EDC17CP09 DDE7.3
BMW X1 (E84) 1.8L D Bosch EDC17C06 DDE7.0
BMW X3 (E83) Facelift 2.0L D Bosch EDC17CP02 DDE7.1
BMW X6 (E71) 4.0L D Bosch EDC17CP45
Citroen DS3 1.6 HDI Siemens SID807
Fendt     Bosch EDC17CV52
Fendt 724   Bosch EDC17CV56
Ford F-250 6.7L TDI Bosch EDC17CP05
Ford F-350 6.7L TDI Bosch EDC17CP05
Ford F-450 6.7L TDI Bosch EDC17CP05
Ford Mondeo   Bosch EDC17CP42
Honda Accord 2.2iCDTi Bosch EDC17CP06
Hyundai Tuscon, Santa Fe 2.2 CDTi Bosch EDC17CP14
Iveco Daily 3.0CR Bosch EDC17CP52
Kia Mohave 3.0D Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
KIA Sportage 2.0 CRDI Bosch EDC17C08
Land Rover Discovery 4, Range Rover 3.0D Bosch EDC17CP11
Mercedes-Benz A 180 (W169) 2.0L CDI Bosch EDC17C43
Mercedes-Benz C 200 (W204) 2.0L CDI Bosch EDC17CP01
Mercedes-Benz CLS, E 350CDI, 450CDI Bosch EDC17CP46
Mercedes-Benz Sprinter 319CDI Bosch EDC17CP10
Mercedes-Benz Viano 120CDI Bosch EDC17CP10
Nissan Qashqai 1.6 DCI Bosch EDC17C42
Opel Insignia 2.0L CDTi Bosch EDC17C19
Peugeot 207 1.6L HDI Bosch EDC17C10
Porsche Cayenne 3.0L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP14 HW03
Porsche Cayenne II 3.0L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP44
Renault Clio 1.5 DCI Bosch EDC17C42
Seat Ibiza 4 1.4L TDI Bosch EDC17U1
Seat Ibiza 4 1.9L TDI Bosch EDC17U1
Seat Ibiza 4 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17C46
Skoda Superb 2 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Skoda Yeti 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Skoda Yeti 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17C46
Toyota Urban Cruiser 1.4L D4-D Bosch EDC17CP07
Volkswagen EOS 1.4L TSI Bosch MED17.5.20
Volkswagen EOS 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Volkswagen Golf 6 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Volkswagen Jetta 3 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 EXTERN
Volkswagen Passat 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Volkswagen Phaeton 3.0L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP04 INTERN
Volkswagen Scirocco 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Volkswagen Tiguan 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Volkswagen Touareg 3.0L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP04 INTERN
Volkswagen Touareg 3.0L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP24
Volkswagen Touareg II 3.0L V6 TDI Bosch EDC17CP44
Volkswagen Transporter T6 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP20 HW31
Volkswagen Vento 2.0L TDI CR Bosch EDC17CP14 INTERN
Volvo     Bosch EDC17CP01
Volvo     Bosch EDC17CP22
Volvo XC60 2.4 D5 Bosch EDC17CP48

Here are a most EDC17 list. Most EDC types are listed here but not all. You can contact the customer service to make sure.